How can we have conversations that fall neither into the trap of being boring nor of being ad hominem screaming matches?  How can we have discussions that push at the boundaries of comfort and normality without falling into self-protective, self-righteous diatribes?  

How can we explore our opinions and experiences without being disrespectful?  

We follow our curiosity in the pursuit of truth.  Not every path is smooth.  We must be willing to pass through some bramble, perhaps even step where we’re not supposed to, as we foray towards a better place, somewhere where we can all congregate and exchange information.  

If, on the other hand, we must look in every direction and consult each person before every step, we may never progress, and may in fact get stuck in the mire.  

In the spirit of “think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world” we want to be able to dig into reality and use conversation as a shovel, recognizing that the words of conversation are a tool and not to be taken too seriously.  

In the pursuit of our curiosity, we’re allowed to say what we think.  

Hunter and Al are two friends from highschool that find fulfillment in meaningful conversation.  

Hunter has a background in engineering, using his knowledge to succeed in the engineering, sales, and marketing.  He was an atypical computer nerd in his teenage years, but utilizes those technical abilities to dive deeply into any subject of interest. 

Hunter’s controversial opinion that he is passionate about: Solar energy is less “green" and more detrimental to the planet than most people realize.  

Al is a world traveler turned author, a jack of all trades and master of none (see: ‘unemployable’).  He has experience in bookkeeping and real estate, and retains those skills to be a drag at social events.  His practices at diving into creativity can be seen in affinity for being an “idea guy”. 

Al’s controversial opinion that he is passionate about: Vegans are ignorant of how nutrients cycle through an ecosystem. 

Originally, we wanted to have a book club. We then had the idea to record it. It then seemed logical to post those recordings as a podcast. We then realized that reading, notetaking, and research are a lot of work, and the two of us agreeing on everything was a bit of an echo chamber, and we started having a lot of fun speaking to other people about their interests. Thus, the typical white dude podcast format was realized